Comments on: On the Accepting Criticism Entry… http://blog.4d2.org/2008/08/08/on-the-accepting-criticism-entry/ Because everyone else already has one Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:21:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michael http://blog.4d2.org/2008/08/08/on-the-accepting-criticism-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-952 Michael Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:58:06 +0000 http://blog.4d2.org/?p=541#comment-952 This is why "egregious stupidity" should be a citable offense. There's really nothing that this woman should have been charged with. Seat belt laws, maybe, but most places have a very limited set of things you can be cited for on private property (a parking lot is not a public road). I think the police screwed up big time on this one. No sane judge or jury will convict this woman of child abuse, but I also think she deserves some sort of public shaming. You are probably right in guessing that she only ended up in trouble because she made a fuss. This is why “egregious stupidity” should be a citable offense. There’s really nothing that this woman should have been charged with. Seat belt laws, maybe, but most places have a very limited set of things you can be cited for on private property (a parking lot is not a public road).

I think the police screwed up big time on this one. No sane judge or jury will convict this woman of child abuse, but I also think she deserves some sort of public shaming.

You are probably right in guessing that she only ended up in trouble because she made a fuss.

]]> By: Kara http://blog.4d2.org/2008/08/08/on-the-accepting-criticism-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-950 Kara Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:03:17 +0000 http://blog.4d2.org/?p=541#comment-950 If you were on your own property, riding with your grandkid on the roof, nothing would have happened. But if you're on public property, you may end up with a ticket for not having your kid seated and wearing a belt. I might not support those laws (at least for adults), but they are the laws and they have been shown to save lives (many a relative of mine has died because they didn't wear seat belts). Most cops, in this scenario, will write you a ticket and let you go *unless* you argue with them. Chances are this woman pitched a fit and they took her in more for that than for the originating offense. I don't think she ought to be tried for felony child abuse, but I also think she broke at least one law and the system has to decide the proper punishment to mete out. And I think making excuses is weak. Always. Breaking a law because you think it's stupid and accepting the punishment is a way to prove your point. Breaking a law because you think it's stupid and defending your character only proves that you feel like you have to defend yourself. She should be arguing that the law is attempting to deny her valuable freedoms with no provable evidence of wrong-doing or harm. Not arguing that she wouldn't do something bad or dangerous because she has Jesus in her life. If you were on your own property, riding with your grandkid on the roof, nothing would have happened.

But if you’re on public property, you may end up with a ticket for not having your kid seated and wearing a belt. I might not support those laws (at least for adults), but they are the laws and they have been shown to save lives (many a relative of mine has died because they didn’t wear seat belts).

Most cops, in this scenario, will write you a ticket and let you go *unless* you argue with them. Chances are this woman pitched a fit and they took her in more for that than for the originating offense. I don’t think she ought to be tried for felony child abuse, but I also think she broke at least one law and the system has to decide the proper punishment to mete out.

And I think making excuses is weak. Always. Breaking a law because you think it’s stupid and accepting the punishment is a way to prove your point. Breaking a law because you think it’s stupid and defending your character only proves that you feel like you have to defend yourself. She should be arguing that the law is attempting to deny her valuable freedoms with no provable evidence of wrong-doing or harm. Not arguing that she wouldn’t do something bad or dangerous because she has Jesus in her life.

]]> By: Dankoozy http://blog.4d2.org/2008/08/08/on-the-accepting-criticism-entry/comment-page-1/#comment-949 Dankoozy Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:27:35 +0000 http://blog.4d2.org/?p=541#comment-949 Maybe i'm just an oldskool asbestos munching old fart but I don't see anything wrong with what they did. the chance of something going wrong is close to 0. safety is so overdone in most places now where bureaucrats spend their days making regulations for hypothetical disaster scenarios. Maybe i’m just an oldskool asbestos munching old fart but I don’t see anything wrong with what they did. the chance of something going wrong is close to 0. safety is so overdone in most places now where bureaucrats spend their days making regulations for hypothetical disaster scenarios.

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