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	<title>Comments on: Dreaded Orange Spots &amp; Hot Process</title>
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	<description>Because everyone else already has one</description>
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		<title>By: kara</title>
		<link>http://blog.4d2.org/2007/11/21/dreaded-orange-spots-hot-process/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>kara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we do NOT give our fishies tapwater.  We give them specially treated tap water.

I hate those stains in the tub, in the toilet, in the sink.  so gnargnar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we do NOT give our fishies tapwater.  We give them specially treated tap water.</p>
<p>I hate those stains in the tub, in the toilet, in the sink.  so gnargnar</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://blog.4d2.org/2007/11/21/dreaded-orange-spots-hot-process/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in retrospect using the tap water was stupid, but I just didn&#039;t think about it given that it looks and tastes fine (and hasn&#039;t killed the plants or animals in our fish tank).

I ordered some actual soap supplies (such as coconut oil) and I&#039;ll try a batch with distilled water when they show up. In the meantime, I guess I&#039;ll wait and see what happens to the HP batch. It feels like there&#039;s still a lot of unsaponified oil in there, which really shouldn&#039;t be possible -- but it does sort of align with what happened to the failed batch before the brown ooze.

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m going to attempt to rebatch the first batch, especially if it turns out that the problem is some sort of contaminant. I sort-of-rebatched it once already, when I reheated it after it went cold the first time. That stuff just does not want to be soap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in retrospect using the tap water was stupid, but I just didn&#8217;t think about it given that it looks and tastes fine (and hasn&#8217;t killed the plants or animals in our fish tank).</p>
<p>I ordered some actual soap supplies (such as coconut oil) and I&#8217;ll try a batch with distilled water when they show up. In the meantime, I guess I&#8217;ll wait and see what happens to the HP batch. It feels like there&#8217;s still a lot of unsaponified oil in there, which really shouldn&#8217;t be possible &#8212; but it does sort of align with what happened to the failed batch before the brown ooze.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m going to attempt to rebatch the first batch, especially if it turns out that the problem is some sort of contaminant. I sort-of-rebatched it once already, when I reheated it after it went cold the first time. That stuff just does not want to be soap.</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
		<link>http://blog.4d2.org/2007/11/21/dreaded-orange-spots-hot-process/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh! you used tap water? I do think that might have something to do with it (Arlington tap water is a bit sketchy, so I used distilled).

The orange spots are an aesthetic problem only but it sounds like you had something else not go quite right. It actually sounds similar to the problem I had with my first batch -- orangey-red oozing fluid. I&#039;m not sure yet what it was: it wasn&#039;t slick like oil and it wasn&#039;t caustic, but I did add a lot of (distilled) water to try to bring that batch back from the early seize, so I think a lot of it was water.

You may be able to rebatch what you have and/or convert it to hot process... though when I attempted that with my failed batch, it didn&#039;t work out so well (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xantha.org/gallery/craft/DSC_0074&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I ended up with this mess&lt;/a&gt;, which oozed like crazy and was clumpy/gritty).

When I cut my second successful CP batch (orange-cinnamon-clove, olive/palm/coconut) into bars on Monday night, I had a small sliver that I mis-cut, so I decided to try it out. It foamed! It smelled good! It was real soap! It was safe to use (as you know) but really needs a few weeks to cure to harden up a little.

I&#039;ll be thinking good thoughts about your HP soap -- and let us know if you attempt to rebatch the first CP batch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh! you used tap water? I do think that might have something to do with it (Arlington tap water is a bit sketchy, so I used distilled).</p>
<p>The orange spots are an aesthetic problem only but it sounds like you had something else not go quite right. It actually sounds similar to the problem I had with my first batch &#8212; orangey-red oozing fluid. I&#8217;m not sure yet what it was: it wasn&#8217;t slick like oil and it wasn&#8217;t caustic, but I did add a lot of (distilled) water to try to bring that batch back from the early seize, so I think a lot of it was water.</p>
<p>You may be able to rebatch what you have and/or convert it to hot process&#8230; though when I attempted that with my failed batch, it didn&#8217;t work out so well (<a href="http://www.xantha.org/gallery/craft/DSC_0074" rel="nofollow">I ended up with this mess</a>, which oozed like crazy and was clumpy/gritty).</p>
<p>When I cut my second successful CP batch (orange-cinnamon-clove, olive/palm/coconut) into bars on Monday night, I had a small sliver that I mis-cut, so I decided to try it out. It foamed! It smelled good! It was real soap! It was safe to use (as you know) but really needs a few weeks to cure to harden up a little.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be thinking good thoughts about your HP soap &#8212; and let us know if you attempt to rebatch the first CP batch.</p>
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